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Feb. 1st, 2014

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If this thing about JK Rowling regretting ending the books with Ron/Hermione turns out to be true, I will lose. my. mind. LOSE. MY. MIND. LOSE IT. [personal profile] author_by_night, have you heard about this??

Kept the fire going all day! Also cut out chemisette pieces like a true professional. I need to buy more lawn - think I'll get however much you need to get a bulk rate, since I've been going through it and (maybe) will start to make more things ahead if I have a bigger store.

But I didn't get down to the body shop, because they close at noon and when I went there at 2 the gates were closed. Sigh.

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author_by_night
Feb. 2nd, 2014 12:38 am (UTC)
I'm seeing a few different versions - one says she said Hermione should've married Harry, another has her just saying that it was "wish fulfillment" - not sure what that means. TBH re-reading the books, they are way more obviously Ron/Hermione, so I wouldn't read too much into it. My guess is she means that in some ways, Harry getting the heroine makes more structural sense, but as she wrote it it was Ron and Hermione. At least I hope so.


Edited at 2014-02-02 12:38 am (UTC)
chocolatepot
Feb. 2nd, 2014 12:58 am (UTC)
https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/status/429735253477818368/photo/1/large

She says (although I'm still hoping this is an elaborate ruse) that R/Hr was something she decided out of wish-fulfillment, and then clung to because it was part of the original plan. It just pings me as fake because isn't that exactly what Vanceone et al. used to say? And the universe wouldn't let Vanceone be right, right??
author_by_night
Feb. 2nd, 2014 01:10 am (UTC)
... vanceone. Wow, that brings back memories.

I've seen this in a few places (snitchsneeker, Jezebel, Hypabcle), so I'm inclined to think it's probably real, but they're also not necessarily the most credible sources, so I'm going with this being taken out of context or something.

Edited at 2014-02-02 01:11 am (UTC)
bitchet
Feb. 2nd, 2014 02:05 am (UTC)
I'm happy about the news because as a diehard crazy R/Hr fan it's something to focus on rather than real life stuff. Also I hope this revives the dead R/Hr half of fandom (lol).
chocolatepot
Feb. 2nd, 2014 02:44 am (UTC)
It'll give us all something to bond over.

(Also, I'm sorry if I'm breaking etiquette, but I'm so sorry about Roxanne.)
bitchet
Feb. 2nd, 2014 05:35 pm (UTC)
Okay, I sent a response via my phone. I wonder where it went. Was it sent as email?

Anyway, no worries. Thank you.
lavinialavender
Feb. 2nd, 2014 03:32 am (UTC)
Wait, it's Ron/Hermione that she regrets? Not Harry/Ginny? WTF. I can't accept that.
nevrafire
Feb. 2nd, 2014 04:27 am (UTC)
THIS!!!!!

RON AND HERMIONE GOT A BUILT UP OF 7 BOOKS AND THAT'S THE ONE SHE REGRETS AND THINKS IS "WISH FULFILLMENT" "WOULD NEED TERAPY"?

caitie
Feb. 2nd, 2014 05:32 am (UTC)
Whaaaaat.
caitie
Feb. 2nd, 2014 06:16 pm (UTC)
The weird part to me is that, like, judging by her somewhat groan-worthy Remus/Tonks headcanon shared on Pottermore, she hasn't gotten "better" at writing romances. Not that I have any of the problems with Ron/Hermione some people did, but I could at least see the arguments much better for R/T which I also liked, I just figured it was a function of being such a minor ship that was used as a red herring and then later more as symbolism to create a full circle situation than a ship that stood on its own. But then the headcanon came out, and I was like urgh about it. But Ron/Hermione was, like, such a cute sidekick romance, and I consider them so compatible! I still do, but I really respect JKR so much so it's definitely a bummer. And sort of annoying footnote on the end of my fandom experience. I mean, I'm sure if she'd done H/Hr in the novels instead of R/Hr, I would have liked it. But she DIDN'T AT ALL, but now she's undermined them in favor of a fanon ship that mostly exists post-series because of the traditional male lead x female lead vibe to their relationship in the movies (a dynamic that doesn't exist in the books at all, sigh).

Anyway, sorry to bombard you with this comment, I just wanted to write my feelings~~~ out about this.
chocolatepot
Feb. 2nd, 2014 10:12 pm (UTC)
I have a lot of ~feelings~ too, I understand!

I just figured it was a function of being such a minor ship that was used as a red herring and then later more as symbolism to create a full circle situation than a ship that stood on its own. But then the headcanon came out, and I was like urgh about it.

Yup, me too. To me, it could have been all right with just a few tweaks, too.

I'm hoping that in the full text, when we get to see it, she's not saying she should have written H/Hr, but just that it ... I don't know, that she could see it? Because she really did put more lead-up into R/Hr than anything else, and she herself seemed to be wholly for it in interviews and so on. I don't understand why she's saying it wasn't literary enough - there's a lot of history for people who seem not to get along to turn out to fall in love.

I would hope her alternative to it would be for none of them to end up together.
mandie_rw
Feb. 2nd, 2014 07:16 am (UTC)
About the Rowling comment, I heard about that. I've decided that if it's not either completely untrue/taken out of context/what-have-you...I'm going to completely ignore it and pretend she didn't say it, because it makes me :(

(In a way, I could more understand it if she'd written Ron exactly the way he is in the films, because in that case Hermione might actually need therapy later if she'd married someone that dumb, heh. Book-Ron is rather different than Movie-Ron though! Gaaah.)
nevrafire
Feb. 2nd, 2014 04:19 pm (UTC)
I buy that if it wasn't because Ron HAD *some* good book-like moments in the movies.

on the top of my head I can think off:

*Him being concerned about harry's growing obsession with the mirror of erised and trying to disuade him from seeing it again (PS- deleted scene but Still- Filmed!)

*His speech during the chess match thing "Harry it has to be you i know it, Not me, Not Hermione, You!" (PS)

*his defense of hermione and then vomiting slugs ("you'll pay for that one malfoy!) (cos)

*What about my sister?!!! *Rages* you're the DADA teacher you cant leave now! (cos)

*His defense of Harry against Seamus "does anyone else have a problem with Harry?/Don't listen to Seamus Harry he's just being stupid. (ootp)

*his constant checking that harry is ok (ootp)

*him trying to protect Hermione against grawp (ootp)

*when they escape the umbridge squad "how did you escaped/ simple pus pastilles, I told them i was hungry and just wanted some sweets they told me to bugger off and ate them themselves/ that was clever ron!/ it's been known to happen.
(ootp)

*"You think mad eye died for you? you think... almost died for you?// come with me/ and leave Hermione? we wouldn't last two days without her! (DH1)

*you're lucky goblin-- the same couldn't be said for this one (points to hermione)/Ron- Like Hell! *charges in and is a badass* (DH1)

*We won't hand in harry you hear me!/ He beat you! (DH2- both deleted-behind the scenes-scenes)


so yeah, no excuse and I just feel betrayed.


jesspallas
Feb. 3rd, 2014 08:02 am (UTC)
I've actually read an article on Yahoo News about JKR's comments on this - in it, there is no mention at all that she should have paired Hermione with Harry - she simply says the R/Her pairing was wish fulfilment and she stuck with it but she thinks in hindsight that it wouldn't be the best marriage and Hermione would get annoyed with him and they might need counselling at some point and perhaps she shouldn't have done it after all. Getting annoyed with your partner though - isn't that just marriage?

I wonder if she's feeling the pressure of all the people yelling it should have been Harry and Hermione and has lost her nerve and is heding her bets a bit by saying this. I personally felt the pairing was a better and braver choice than pairing Hermione with Harry, which would have been the more conventional choice but that's just me.
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